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Offline CTxCB

SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« on: July 01, 2016, 03:29:16 PM »
I've tried SoundBox, which doesn't export to MIDI. Is there a modern program I can use to do this?



Offline Kawa

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 03:39:46 PM »
SV can do it. I use it myself. And I use its command-line counterpart for mass ops.

Offline MusicallyInspired

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 03:46:55 PM »
Use SV V1 to export to MIDI. The latest version (that has a separate EXEs for GUI and command line) has a bug with music playback and doesn't play all channels properly (exporting has the same problem).
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Offline Collector

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 10:11:47 PM »
The SCI Sound Utilities can. It uses an updated SoundToMidi that Gumby did. You can also do it in bulk.
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Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 01:46:40 AM »
Oh, right on!
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Offline CTxCB

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2016, 05:16:18 AM »
SV can do it. I use it myself. And I use its command-line counterpart for mass ops.
Use SV V1 to export to MIDI. The latest version (that has a separate EXEs for GUI and command line) has a bug with music playback and doesn't play all channels properly (exporting has the same problem).
Thanks, I'll finally be able to learn to play the theme tune to the first two games in the Hoyle Franchise (Since they both have the same theme tune, along with most of the same artwork). Sadly, though, SV.EXE doesn't have support for LSCI (Large-Scale SCI) which was created by Jeff Stephenson to manage the networking for The Sierra Network, which later became The ImagiNation Network once AT&T bought half of the service. I so wanted to learn to play the map theme for INN. :'(

The SCI Sound Utilities can. It uses an updated SoundToMidi that Gumby did. You can also do it in bulk.
Yes, it can... But not for me. I'm unable to run SoundToMIDI because it is a 16-Bit Program because I'm using a 64-Bit version of Windows. As I quote from the error window: "Unsupported 16-Bit Application: The program or feature 'Snd2MIDI.EXE' cannot start or run due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available."
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Offline Kawa

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2016, 06:04:23 AM »
I use DOSBox and/or VirtualBox in those cases.

Offline CTxCB

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2016, 06:10:00 AM »
I use DOSBox and/or VirtualBox in those cases.
How do I use DOSBox to get all the MIDI Music Channels? I've tried SV.EXE but it's weird and although the tracks are fine, they do weird things like one track seems to build up notes instead of them stopping once finished, making a horrible mess. My side-plan of doing this was to remix the Hoyle I Theme with the Hoyle III Theme in one song, I made something interesting, but not in a good way. Also, another problem here with INN in specific, is that the game doesn't connect anymore because obviously all the servers and stuff are dead now, so I can't get the map music that way.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2016, 06:11:55 AM by CTxCB »

Offline Kawa

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2016, 06:25:05 AM »
I use DOSBox to run 16-bit DOS apps like the Sierra SCI interpreters. I run Windows 3.11 -in- DOSBox to run old Win apps. And I run Windows 98 in VirtualBox for old 16-bit Win apps that won't accept 3.11.

So which of these is SoundToMIDI?

Offline CTxCB

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 06:29:29 AM »
I use DOSBox to run 16-bit DOS apps like the Sierra SCI interpreters. I run Windows 3.11 -in- DOSBox to run old Win apps. And I run Windows 98 in VirtualBox for old 16-bit Win apps that won't accept 3.11.

So which of these is SoundToMIDI?
Ah, I'll try that out in a bit. SV.EXE seems to be useless with the task at hand.

Offline gumby

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2016, 07:39:15 AM »
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The SCI Sound Utilities can. It uses an updated SoundToMidi that Gumby did. You can also do it in bulk.
Yes, it can... But not for me. I'm unable to run SoundToMIDI because it is a 16-Bit Program because I'm using a 64-Bit version of Windows. As I quote from the error window: "Unsupported 16-Bit Application: The program or feature 'Snd2MIDI.EXE' cannot start or run due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available."


That's the original version (Snd2MIDI), I ported this to a 32 bit application (SoundToMIDI).  Bad choice of naming on my part, it's not very clear.  You can grab the SCI Sound Utilities here:  http://sci.sierrahelp.com/Files/DL/SCISoundUtilsSetup.zip.php
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Offline OmerMor

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2016, 09:38:39 AM »
Sadly, though, SV.EXE doesn't have support for LSCI (Large-Scale SCI) which was created by Jeff Stephenson to manage the networking for The Sierra Network, which later became The ImagiNation Network once AT&T bought half of the service. I so wanted to learn to play the map theme for INN. :'(

Here's an archive with all the SND files from INN:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5j-_ZMS8_UoQzRFVzNqOTltQzg/view?usp=sharing

Offline CTxCB

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2016, 12:15:23 PM »
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The SCI Sound Utilities can. It uses an updated SoundToMidi that Gumby did. You can also do it in bulk.
Yes, it can... But not for me. I'm unable to run SoundToMIDI because it is a 16-Bit Program because I'm using a 64-Bit version of Windows. As I quote from the error window: "Unsupported 16-Bit Application: The program or feature 'Snd2MIDI.EXE' cannot start or run due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available."


That's the original version (Snd2MIDI), I ported this to a 32 bit application (SoundToMIDI).  Bad choice of naming on my part, it's not very clear.  You can grab the SCI Sound Utilities here:  http://sci.sierrahelp.com/Files/DL/SCISoundUtilsSetup.zip.php
So, uh, The theme tune to Hoyle Vol. I & II (sound.010) worked fine converting with that and there were no problems, but it only works on SCI0 sounds, I have no way to convert SCI1+ sounds, such as the theme tune to Hoyle Vol. III (800.snd), or the music for INN which also has the xxx.snd format. What do I use for those?

Offline CTxCB

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2016, 12:16:12 PM »
Sadly, though, SV.EXE doesn't have support for LSCI (Large-Scale SCI) which was created by Jeff Stephenson to manage the networking for The Sierra Network, which later became The ImagiNation Network once AT&T bought half of the service. I so wanted to learn to play the map theme for INN. :'(

Here's an archive with all the SND files from INN:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5j-_ZMS8_UoQzRFVzNqOTltQzg/view?usp=sharing
Thanks for those. It's much appreciated, now to only find a way to convert them to MIDI files.

Offline OmerMor

Re: SCI0 / SCI1 Sounds to MIDI?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2016, 01:07:11 PM »
Try copying the files to a SCI1 game's folder, and opening it in SV.exe.


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