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Title: How old is everyone?
Post by: claudehuggins on August 28, 2016, 05:28:15 PM
I didn't grow up with Sierra the way it seems everyone else here did, so I tend to assume myself as the youngest (I'm 19). However, you never know, there may be more like me out there who discovered the games kinda late-ish and got into SCI programming that way.
So I gotta ask: What's the average age group on these forums?
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on August 28, 2016, 05:37:27 PM
I'll be 32 this October. Definitely grew up with these games. We didn't have video game consoles and my dad was really into computers and technology in a time where very few people HAD home personal computers. :)
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: claudehuggins on August 28, 2016, 05:46:12 PM
I'll be 32 this October. Definitely grew up with these games. We didn't have video game consoles and my dad was really into computers and technology in a time where very few people HAD home personal computers. :)
That sounds awesome! My father was also really into computers; he seemed excited when I mentioned I wanted to get into programming and pulled out a bunch of his old qbasic programs for me to look at.
I don't want to be that kid, but I kinda wish I HAD grown up with these games. The closest I got was my aunt letting me play KQ6 when I was a kid, but I was too young to really appreciate it, and got scared when I died and watched Alexander be led into the realm of the dead (quite freaky to 7-year-old me), which turned me off from the games until I rediscovered them years later.
I think it was mid 2015 before I ever got exposed to another Sierra game. So you could say I came to the party way too late. :P
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on August 28, 2016, 07:32:07 PM
But you're here now and that's what matters. ;)
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Kawa on August 28, 2016, 07:41:48 PM
33 already, here. Grew up with the old Sierra games. I have fond-in-hindsight memories of that goddamn zombie in SQ4. Could barely even read English at the time.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on August 28, 2016, 08:54:47 PM
Space Quest 1 and 2 taught me to read, spell, and type. It's probably why I'm as literate as I am (I always aced my spelling tests in school).
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: OmerMor on August 29, 2016, 11:40:06 AM
I'm 38.
The PC in general and Sierra games in particular have taught me English (Hebrew is my mother tongue) when I was about 8 years old.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 03, 2016, 06:40:54 AM
I'm 41. To be honest, I've always thought that most of you were older than me, but sounds like I'm the old one.  :)

I was introduced to Sierra games in 1989 at the age of 14. Prior to that I was hacking away on the Commodore VIC 20 and text adventures were my thing.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Collector on September 03, 2016, 11:58:25 AM
Hey Lance, long time no see.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Doan Sephim on September 08, 2016, 09:33:55 AM
33. Grew up playing Quest for Glory and Space Quest.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 08, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
Hey Lance, long time no see.

Yeah, still here. This web site is one of those in my list that I'm looking over every few days or so. Somewhat distracted by a growing number of other projects at present. I'm actually thinking about putting an entry in to the js13kgames contest this year, but only 5 days left. I better get a move on. I put an entry in a couple of years ago, but it was somewhat incomplete. It wasn't really much of a game, but a good experience in learning more about HTML5 and Javascript. I have quite a good idea this year, just need to find the time to put it into code.

On the topic of adventure games though, there are a growing number of graphic adventures appearing on the Android Google Play store. Some quite nice ones actually. I quite like The Silent Age and Lost Echo.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 14, 2016, 10:21:31 AM
Regarding my js13kgames entry, it has now been submitted and is available here:

http://js13kgames.com/entries/youve-been-glitched

Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: troflip on September 14, 2016, 04:55:46 PM
Looks cool, but everything slows to a crawl shortly after starting - it slows to like one or half a frame a second, and the music stops and starts. Running it on Chrome on Win7.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 15, 2016, 02:12:57 AM
Horrible, isn't it? Unfortunately I ran out if time to do full cross platform testing. I developed it using Chrome on Linux, where the rotation works really well, but Chrome on Windows can't seem to handle it.

Firefox on Windows works fine though. It works well on IE 10 as well, but without the sound.

Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Collector on September 15, 2016, 08:19:14 PM
Yeah, it seems to be OK in FF on my Win7.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Kawa on September 15, 2016, 08:25:40 PM
IE11 on 7, runs like bluh if at all :(
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: troflip on September 15, 2016, 08:28:50 PM
Is this done in html5 or something?

I dunno what framework it's using, but maybe it's falling back to software rendering or something on those platforms where it's slow.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 16, 2016, 05:38:12 AM
Yeah, it is html5. The contest is basically an html5 contest, i.e. build a game using html5 that is only 13k when zipped. I ran out of time in the end to test it anywhere but on my linux machine.

You might be right about it falling back to software rendering. The cause of the perf issue is the rotation. I think I've found another way to do it with css3 animation that appears to work well in Chrome on Windows, so I might put up a link to such a version for you all in a day or two. Won't help me with the contest though. That deadline has gone. What they'll see is what you're seeing.  :-(   
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 18, 2016, 05:53:02 PM
I'm thinking that next year I'll try to fit a graphic adventure in to 13k for the js13kgames contest. Obviously it won't have a lot of bitmap graphics, but I might be able to come up with something that looks pretty cool. Browsers these days have a lot of features that give you things for free. WebGL is pretty amazing, CSS3, and the canvas API... If I can put it together in the right way, then maybe I can make something that looks good and has a decent number of rooms and items, and a story to go with it. Would be impressive if it could be pulled off. I doubt they'll be thinking that a graphic adventure would enter the contest.  8)   I can't have a lot of text, so I'd need to use icons for input, and some kind of low cost visual response to the input.

I do have a faster version of "You've Been Glitched" in the pipepline. Just preparing an HTML file for you at the moment. Will put it on AGIFANS.COM in the file section to I can link to it. Firefox was fairly happy with the original version, but is much crisper with the new version.

Unfortunately it has stopped working in IE altogether. I don't think I'll try getting it working before releasing it to you. The fact that it is now playable in Chrome will hopefully satisfy you all.

(@Jupiter_Hadley on Youtube tried the game on Chrome earlier today and it was quite embarrassing how slow it was, but she was quite good about it. Blamed her PC :-) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm5W3WSp674

Edit: My game is at about the 8 minute mark.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 21, 2016, 01:45:41 PM
Attached is a version that works a lot better in Chrome (rotation certainly sorted), and I think is even smoother in Firefox than it was. Don't think it works at all in IE though. Haven't yet tracked down why. Also works in Opera now.

You'll need to download it then open it manually in your browser.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Kawa on September 21, 2016, 02:44:54 PM
Also works in Opera now.
Lies. I get a black screen and nothing more. Did you mean Chromepera, maybe?

Update: IE11 yields the same, plus a notice that the page is near-frozen because of a long-running script.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 21, 2016, 03:31:16 PM
Hmmm, maybe you're right about Opera. I don't usually use it, so I hadn't realised they were using Chromium code now. Well that would explain why it works on the latest version of Opera, downloaded solely for testing the game. Sounds like that wasn't a particularly useful endeavour.

Did it work better on Chrome though?

I might see if I can work out why this version isn't working on IE. It doesn't work for me either. On the version submitted for the contest, it does at least work on IE10 but I've now broken that it would seem. I was told by someone that the submitted version works on Edge as well, but I don't have access to that browser myself at the moment.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Kawa on September 21, 2016, 04:25:38 PM
Did it work better on Chrome though?
I don't have Chrome. I only have Opera 12 (daily use) and IE11 (fallback and testing).
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 21, 2016, 04:47:47 PM
Will try to get it working on one or both of those then.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 21, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
Give this one a go. It should work in both IE 11 and Opera 12. It seems to be smoother on IE 11 though.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: troflip on September 21, 2016, 06:41:08 PM
*reminds oneself why he uses an engine*

(though the min size for a Unity html5 game is like 6MB or something... definitely not 13k)
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Kawa on September 21, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Tomorrow.

That works great. Thanks!
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 22, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Glad it worked. I might actually put it somewhere more permanent now, and then I'm done with it. Will start thinking about a micro js adventure game engine after that, in preparation for next year.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: lance.ewing on September 23, 2016, 03:39:33 AM
*reminds oneself why he uses an engine*

(though the min size for a Unity html5 game is like 6MB or something... definitely not 13k)

Yeah, you pretty much have to do everything at the lowest level to save space, although there are some specialist mini js libraries for sound & music, which you're allowed to use if it fits. I'm using one of each, so obviously I could save some space by merging those in to a single js lib, since they do very similar things.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: AGKorson on April 22, 2017, 12:01:26 PM
Looks like I'm the greybeard around here. I'm 52. My first computer was a RadioShack Color Computer with a whopping 16K of memory and a cassette tape storage system.

I was in college when Sierra hit its prime, and bought/played most of their games as they were released.

I also remember the Apple Lisa - it came out in '84 IIRC, and we had them in our computer labs at University of Michigan. They were pretty cool. I started writing a text based adventure game about escaping from a prison on the Lisa. All long gone now.

Also remember when the first Macs came out. By then, I was really entrenched in IBM PC/DOS systems, so I never got bit by the Mac bug. I do remember working with Excel for the first time on a Mac and realizing it was a big step forward from Lotus 1-2-3 (in which I had become quite good at writing macros, getting it to do some pretty cool stuff).

What I remember most from those days was the excitement of going to bookstores/software stores, and checking out the latest releases. There was a ton of great stuff being made back those days.

Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on April 22, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
Looks like I'm the greybeard around here. I'm 52. My first computer was a RadioShack Color Computer with a whopping 16K of memory and a cassette tape storage system.

I still have two! Color Computer 3 (only one works, though). Have a cassette drive and a 5.25" drive, as well as cartridges and loads of Rainbow magazines with games you could program in yourself. That was our video game system as kids along with dad's Tandy 1000. Fond memories of Zaxxon, Pooyan, Thexder, and Super Pitfall. We even had King's Quest III but our CoCo didn't have enough RAM to play it. :( Still have the box and disks though!
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: OmerMor on April 23, 2017, 03:43:42 AM
We even had King's Quest III but our CoCo didn't have enough RAM to play it. :( Still have the box and disks though!

Maybe the disks have some source code left in their free sectors?
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on April 23, 2017, 06:43:52 PM
I wouldn't know. I don't have a way to have them read. I don't have a 5.25" drive hooked up anymore, and besides it's not DOS format compatible. I wouldn't think it could even be read on a standard DOS system...
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: pabuslem on April 23, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
I'm 40 years old. I've been a gamer since I was about six or seven years old, with the Atari 2600 cartridge console and later the Atari 800XL computer.

Unlike many of you, I don't have a technical or engineering background; I'm a journalist. My brother and a close friend of us where into technical stuff, though; they were the "techies" and they are both engineers, though. The funny thing is, they have fond memories of those games but have since outgrew them or have gotten into other hobbies.

I played a couple of Scott Adams' adventure games in the Atari 800XL computer. But around 1988, I saw LSL1 for the first time in the monochrome computer of an older cousin. Man, it was love at first sight.

That same year, or the next year, we got our first PC and began to play Sierra and LucasArts' adventure games. I'm sure many of you had similar experiences and memories: what a time to be alive! My first Sierra adventure games were LSL1, King's Quest III and Space Quest 2. Around that time, I also played LucasArts' The Secret of Monkey Island and Loom.

I was born and grew up in Santiago, Chile, and I'm still living here today. So, my mother language is Spanish, but I learned, or "perfected", my English playing those amazing Sierra adventure games. I think no one has ever realized the great potential of those kind of games to learn new languages!

Good times, fellas. As a nerd, I didn't get any in high school (nor in college, in fact), but I had those great games.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Collector on April 24, 2017, 02:03:28 AM
I wouldn't know. I don't have a way to have them read. I don't have a 5.25" drive hooked up anymore, and besides it's not DOS format compatible. I wouldn't think it could even be read on a standard DOS system...

That is where a KryoFlux comes in. It reads the magnetic flux of the spinning disk and gets all of the info, regardless of format. All you need is the KryoFlux, a functional 5.25" drive and a free USB port on your PC.

http://www.softpres.org/glossary:kryoflux
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: MusicallyInspired on April 24, 2017, 09:13:34 AM
Well I won't be getting one of those anytime soon.
Title: Re: How old is everyone?
Post by: Collector on April 24, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
Given the cost I didn't think so, but given my extensive floppy collection it was a matter of preservation or risk losing them. There is a cheaper solution, even if it cannot copy CP tracks. http://shop.deviceside.com/prod/FC5025