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Offline gumby

Creating PICs with palette cycling
« on: May 30, 2018, 06:54:37 PM »
I've been playing with palette cycling and realized very quickly how time consuming it can be to setup the overlay pic.  I'm looking for suggestions as to how to effectively create the overlays, because drawing pixel-by-pixel is pretty laborious, considering that one needs to change the drawing color each time (for something like the example in the Companion help file - specifically a water effect).

I've been doing everything outside of Companion with Paint.NET, but it isn't cutting it.  My basic process is to create two layers, load the background image as one layer and use another layer for the overlay.  I create the overlay by drawing a pixel, changing the pen color, draw another pixel, rinse-and-repeat.

Anyone done any development in this area that can recommend a more streamlined process or a particular tool-set that would help?


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Offline MusicallyInspired

Re: Creating PICs with palette cycling
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 09:14:11 AM »
Use GrafX 2 (open source 8-bit image editor similar to the old Deluxe Paint) and watch this video where Mark Ferarri (artist for older LucasArts games) explains in detail his methods. You can also find Deluxe Paint 2 itself somewhere online which has some features that GrafX 2 doesn't yet. Mark actually uses a different tool (which I forget but he names in the video), but it's not free and GrafX 2 will mostly do the same things. Specifically check out the parts where he talks about "clown balloon placeholder colours" (or something similar). Skip to the appropriate sections you need because he stops talking about 8-bit art and colour cycling and starts talking about "8-bittish" art and his work on Thimbleweed Park. He comes back to the topic a couple times, though, so seek through the whole video. Or just watch the whole thing it's quite fascinating.

Basically, you MUST work in an 8-bit environment so that you're using the correct palette entries. Just because they're the same colour doesn't mean they're the same entry, obviously. Creating gradients will be a nightmare otherwise because the gradient colours need to be in a range all in a row next to eachother in the palette. What you do is use placeholder colours that are just off the wall and stand out (like yellow, red, purple, etc) which you can then replace with gradient ranges of your choice. You can do this in GrafX 2 by clicking on the FX tool button and selecting the Stencil option. This allows you to choose a colour that the program will only allow you to edit, ignoring all the other colours. In this way you can select your "clown colours" and replace each one with a gradient.

To select a gradient, go into the palette first of all and define your gradient range by click on one entry and selecting a certain colour, then clicking on another entry a few counts away and selecting your other colour that you want to gradient to, then click and drag (in the palette) the starting entry to the ending entry and click the option "spread". This will create the gradient. Then right click on the "Grad. Rect/Grad. Menu" tool and click+drag to select the rage you just created. This window has a couple extra options like changing the dither style and adding/removing noise to make it look less or more uniform. Different settings give different textures which you get interesting results with depending on what you're trying to do. You can also test the colour cycling with the slider on the bottom which will change the rate of cycle speed so you can get an idea of what it will look like.

The video was invaluable to me for understanding how Mark (and Sierra and other 8-bit artists for that matter) created their beautiful works. He also explains how best to shape and create gradient "blobs" so that they really do grant the illusion of motion and not just shifting colours. He mentions a tool being developed by Joseph Huckaby which would do even more than the tool he uses does. But it hasn't been released yet. I've been following him on Twitter ever since waiting. lol

Hope that's helpful.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 09:25:47 AM by MusicallyInspired »
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Offline gumby

Re: Creating PICs with palette cycling
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 06:19:38 PM »
Awesome, thanks.  I'll check out the video and let you guys know how it goes.
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Offline gumby

Re: Creating PICs with palette cycling
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 08:44:14 AM »
"Contour-filled gradients".  That states exactly what I was missing - trying to draw a gradient line or area pixel-by-pixel makes no sense, which I figured.  Been going about it the wrong way for sure.
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Offline MusicallyInspired

Re: Creating PICs with palette cycling
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 09:17:47 AM »
Yes. Contour-filled gradient is one of those things that Deluxe Paint does that GrafX 2 unfortunately doesn't. Still waiting for that perfect 8-bit tool that does everything...
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Offline lskovlun

Re: Creating PICs with palette cycling
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2018, 12:00:59 AM »
Awesome video!


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