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Offline OmerMor

Rare SCI Games
« on: December 20, 2006, 03:07:36 PM »
Copied from the old MT forums:

I thought I'd make a small list of of rare SCI games that I can't seem to find or I had a hard time finding (bold games are the ones I already have):

Rare SCI Games
EGA Versions:
This section covers all the little known EGA versions of well known SCI1 games, like King's Quest 5. When Sierra first moved to 256-color VGA games, they probably feared that people with inferior video cards, or not enough memory, wouldn't be able to run those games. So they made an alternative version with the same point-and-click interface, only with 16-color EGA graphics. When they moved to their newer interpreter, SCI1.1, they stopped making a seperate EGA version, and instead shipped the games (or at least some of them) with an EGA high-resolution driver, (called EGA640.DRV) that could dither the 320x240 VGA graphics in 640x480 EGA.
CD Versions:
This section covers all the less known CD versions of Sierra games.
  • Castle of Dr. Brain (CD Version)
  • Jones in the Fast Lane (CD Version)
Other:
This section covers all the rest.
  • Hero's Quest (Same game as QFG1-SCI0, only with a different title for legal reasons, SCI0)
    Screenshot: http://www.agigames.com/hq.gif
  • Hoyle's Book of Classic Card Games
  • King's Quest 7 (There are 2 versions: one was win only, and the second was dos&win)
  • Mixed up Mother Goose (The very first remake, EGA, SCI01)
  • Slater & Charlie Go Camping
  • Space Quest 4 (Beta Version, with debug-mode enabled)
International Versions:
This section covers all the (official) translations.
  • Conquests of the Longbow (German)
  • Dr. Brain 1 (Spanish-Bi)
  • Dr. Brain 2 (Spanish)
  • EcoQuest 1 (French-Bi, German-Bi, Spanish-Bi)
  • EcoQuest 2 (French, Spanish)
  • Freddy Pharkas (French, German, Spanish)
  • Gabriel Knight 1 (French, German, Spanish)
  • Gabriel Knight 2 (Portugese subtitles)
  • King's Quest 5 (French-Bi, German-Bi, Spanish-Bi)
  • King's Quest 5 EGA (Spanish-Bi)
  • King's Quest 6 (German, Spanish)
  • King's Quest 7 (Spanish talkie)
  • Laura Bow 2 (French, German, Spanish)
  • Leisure Suit Larry 1 Remake (Spanish)
  • Leisure Suit Larry 3 (French-Bi, German-Bi)
  • Leisure Suit Larry 5 (French, German, Spanish)
  • Leisure Suit Larry 6 (French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish)
  • Leisure Suit Larry 7 (German, Spanish,  Russian)
  • Phantasmagoria 1 (Russian)

Screenshots: http://russo.ag.ru/official/125/
  • Police Quest 1 Remake (Spanish)
  • Police Quest 3 (German, Spanish)
  • Police Quest 4 (French, German, Spanish)
  • Quest for Glory 1 (Japanese)

Screenshots: http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~nuts/game/game09.html,
http://www.02.246.ne.jp/~kaw/t-o-m-d/review/qfglory/index.html
  • Quest for Glory 1 Remake (Spanish)
  • Quest for Glory 3 (French, German, Italian, Spanish)
  • Quest for Glory 4 (German)
  • Space Quest 1 Remake (Spanish)
  • Space Quest 3 (German-Bi - SCI01)
  • Space Quest 4 (French-Bi, German-Bi, Spanish-Bi)
  • Space Quest 4 EGA (Spanish)
  • Space Quest 5 (French, German, Spanish)
  • Torin's Passage (French, German, Spanish)



Offline Threepwang

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2020, 11:12:42 AM »
Hi OmerMor,

I don't know how what I think... look this :
https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/10/04/201004051350178456.jpg
It says that Quest for Glory 4 and Police Quest 4 were translated into French.
But but they are apparently nowhere to be found.

Offline hrvg

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2020, 02:40:23 PM »
@ Threepwang,
Police quest 4 was released in French. Quest for Glory 4 was not released in French. Only Quest for Glory 3 and the translation is bad.

Offline OmerMor

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 04:25:34 PM »
I have French Police Quest 4. Let me know if you want a copy.

Offline OmerMor

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 04:30:41 PM »
BTW,
a much more up-to-date and complete list of SCI games can be found in the detection tables of scummvm:
https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/engines/sci/detection_tables.h

Offline EricOakford

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 05:00:56 PM »
@ Threepwang,
Police quest 4 was released in French. Quest for Glory 4 was not released in French. Only Quest for Glory 3 and the translation is bad.

QFG4's documentation was translated to French, but the game itself wasn't. This was even mentioned in the QFG Anthology's readme:
Quote
Question: There is French documentation for QG4 in the \DOCO
directory on the QG Collection CD, but there is no QG4 French game
on the CD.  Why?
Answer: The documentation was printed in French, but we never released
a French version of QG4.  We included the French documentation on the
CD in case someone wanted to take a look at it.
My SCI templates
SCI0 SCI0.1 SCI1.0 SCI1.1
SCI2.1 planned

Offline Threepwang

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 08:32:44 PM »
@OmerMor
Sorry I was wrong for Police Quest IV 'I was thinking more at Quest for Glory IV'.
If you are interested, I have some games from the list 'Space Quest 4 beta and Space Quest 5 v0.028'.
Thank you for the link  :)

@Hrvg
Have you ever randomly bumped someplace, no?  ;)

@EricOakford
Thank you for the info ! In fact, To that end, I have already been discussing of Quest for Glory IV with Corey Cole in person and he said me 'to his knowledge, there is no French version'. But, I wanted to be sure. Because with Sierra, it's sometimes the chaos  ;D

Offline OmerMor

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2020, 11:21:40 AM »
@OmerMor
If you are interested, I have some games from the list 'Space Quest 4 beta and Space Quest 5 v0.028'.

Thanks :-)
In the 14 years that passed since I made this list I managed to find these beta versions...  8)

Offline Threepwang

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2022, 11:26:53 AM »
I discovered that in the game Quest for Glory 3, the view.884 is the French translation of the title of Quest for Glory IV: shadow of darkness / Les Ombres des Tenebres.
http://www.image-heberg.fr/files/16520232401861764759.png
So the Sierra guys had planned or thought about a French version of episode 4, but it never came out.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2022, 08:57:45 AM by Threepwang »

Offline Kawa

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2022, 12:12:49 PM »
The German version also has a translated QfG4 logo, Schatten des Bösen. The Italian and Spanish versions don't seem to have one.

Offline Charles

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2022, 10:40:29 PM »
On the original QFG Anthology CD release in 1996 includes the french documentation for QFG4, stating in the readme file:
Quote
Question: There is French documentation for QG4 in the \DOCO
directory on the QG Anthology CD, but there is no QG4 French game
on the CD.  Why?
Answer: The documentation was printed in French, but we never released
a French versionof QG4.  We included the French documentation on the
CD in case someone needed it.

The later 1997 QFG Collection re-release also includes the french QFG4 documentation, with a slightly rewritten FAQ answer:
Quote
Question: There is French documentation for QG4 in the \DOCO
directory on the QG Collection CD, but there is no QG4 French game
on the CD.  Why?
Answer: The documentation was printed in French, but we never released
a French version of QG4.  We included the French documentation on the
CD in case someone wanted to take a look at it.

Offline Threepwang

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2023, 12:33:59 PM »
Hi everyone!

I am looking for a rare version of Hero's Quest: So You Want to Be a Hero :
Game version 1.102 -  Interpreter version 0.000.629. Impossible to get hold of it.

I found the interpreter version 0.000.566, but Sierra version Tool does not indicate whether it is version 1.000 or 1.001: http://www.image-heberg.fr/files/16759635301495889515.jpg

Sciwiki: http://sciwiki.sierrahelp.com//index.php?title=Hero%27s_Quest:_So_You_Want_to_Be_a_Hero

Also I don't understand what it means: "* First interpreter version that supported kGetTime(2 and 3)"

Thank you for your help PLEASE.

Offline Kawa

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2023, 12:52:48 PM »
Also I don't understand what it means: "* First interpreter version that supported kGetTime(2 and 3)"

The GetTime kernel call supports different formats of return value. (GetTime 1) returns the time of day on a one second resolution with up to twelve hours, 2 returns the time in two second resolution with 24 hours, and 3 returns the date since 1980.

According to the original changelog, these options were added December 12, 1989. They were quite proud of the backward compatibility.

According to MobyGames, Leisure Suit Larry 3 was released in November 1989, which nicely matches how its KERNEL.SH has no mention of any parameters for GetTime, as does LSL2's. Larry 5, from 1991, does have parameters defined for GetTime. So that all matches up.

And that's what "first interpreter version that supported kGetTime(2 and 3)" mean.

Offline Collector

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2023, 10:16:37 PM »
The version information on the Wiki largely comes from HWM's version list.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071130073710/sierra.8bit.co.uk/SVLIST091.TXT

The version information from the version tool comes from the ScummVM hash tables, supplemented copies of my own games that were absent in the SVM tables. It does not include anything from HWM's list as that has no hash info. The kGetTime reference comes from the FreeSCI SCI docs.
KQII Remake Pic

Offline Collector

Re: Rare SCI Games
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2023, 10:25:51 PM »
Also, the info from the version tool is missing the game version in its table. The tool does look for files that might contain the version, but did not find it. If you can find it I can add it to the tool. The Half-dome logo at the left of the menubar should provide the game version.
KQII Remake Pic


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