Will SCI Studio be released?

[CiacioZ]

I think if people put a lot of their energy into making games as they did waiting for the next version, maybe more quality SCI games would be available.

Maybe most of the people prefer the point&click style adventure and wait the new sci studio

[Chris Cromer]

Actually you could do point and click with the current SCI Studio, but you just have to know how to go about doing it.

[Cosmic R]

I reckon there should be a rule - if you havent got anything nice to say, then dont say anything at all.  Ie if someone asks a stupid question, instead of giving vindictive answers, either ignore them, or nicely direct them.

[Chris Cromer]

Ignoring them would only cause them to either ask again, or assume it's dead. So that's out of the question.

And what's the point in directing them to the other threads, they don't read them in the first place even though they are in this same board. Just posting the answer will suffice even though it's annoying to have to keep doing so.

[Endroz]

Perhaps the best way to stop people from asking would be that Brian could post a message on the SCI Studio page telling "The work on SCI Studio has not been abandoned, please be patient and don't post messages arguing on that on the forum".

[FlyingDutchman]

@Chris Cromer: I don't understand your motives.

On one hand only after a few hours after posting you edited the message of FK, claiming he wrote illegal stuff, when all he did was posting his E-Mail adress and asking people to send him the beta version of SCIStudio, which is hardly illegal at all.
The rights to the SCI system belong to Sierra/Vivendi, so no legal claims can be applied to the SCIStudio clone. Besides, since this program is not sold anyway no harm would be done anyway, if someonde did send the program to FK.

On the other hand in this thread
http://www.mega-tokyo.com/forum/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=5905
there exist a very open suggestion by Usman to copy and swap copyrighted software, which in fact is illegal. This post was send over a day ago and noone seem to care.

[Chris Cromer]

Brian does charge for they beta copy's and distributing them is violating what was said, we are NOT to redistribute them.

As for that other post, I didn't see it till just now, I am not online 24 hours a day 7 days a week to monitor what is posted. I also don't check every single topic that is posted on this board. But when I see something that should not be posted then I do remove it. Which I will be doing now that I have seen it. The only reason I noticed the message in this topic so fast was just because I was posting in it and keeping track of it since people would be responding to things I said.

[Kon-Tiki]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but coding in SCI and in SCI Vga are nearly the same, if not the same. Instead of waiting until SCI Vga is released, wouldn't it be better to start working on the games you have in mind in the version of SCI Studio that's already released? It'll get most of the work done already before SCI Vga Studio's released. Also try to keep people up to date 'bout the progress on those games. It'll show that Brian's previous work is put to use instead of being shoved aside by the majority. I know that I'd be alot more motivated to work on something when I know that the previous things I worked on are being put to good use.

[Disturbed Soul]

Hmm.  There are lots of completed AGI games. Also, there are quite a few completed AGS games (another 256-color game studio, for those who don't know.) Why are there so few SCI games out there?

I think the answer is that people don't feel as great an incentive to write good games for SCI. For AGI, I nostalgia goes a long way into the creation of new games. AGS has "the big feature", 256 color graphics. I think SCI 16 is in the uneasy position of having far less nostalgia value (tho I'm sure there is some) than AGI, while lacking the abilities of a system like AGS.

So, maybe if SCI Studio VGA were finished, people might actually make some good games for it, because it has a lot of the interesting features that people want (the big one, of course, being 256 color graphics.)

Just a thought.  

[robingravel]

Why are there so few SCI games out there?

That's because of lack of documentations or I have too difficult to understand some documentations.

I asked about add.to.pic to the board and no one has answered me. Too sad.

And SCI Studio crashes after a while on win95,98 computers.
Somebody reported ScI Studio does not crash under win 2000, XP. Too bad. I have win98.

Back to the subject, Brian should edit his sci studio webpage
each six months to prevent everybody thinks sci studio is dead.


Robin Gravel

[Chris Cromer]

That isn't the only reason why there isn't that many SCI games yet. One of the major reasons is that SCI is still very new to us, it hasn't been around as long as AGS or the AGI tools has been. Have patience, good games can't be created over night, it takes some time and yes there are people working on SCI0 games.

As for that nostalgia remark towards SCI0(16 color) games, my favorite classic game is SQ3 which is SCI0. Also, the resolution of SCI0 is better than that of AGI which means it can have more detail than those AGI games can. It may have the same ammount of colors as AGI... but the SCI engine has special ways to make it seem like more than 16 by mixing those 16 colors together in a pattern.

[Nychold]

And SCI Studio crashes after a while on win95,98 computers.
Somebody reported ScI Studio does not crash under win 2000, XP. Too bad. I have win98.

I may have actually fixed this problem, although without a Windows 9x machine to test it on, I can't be certain.  Volunteers willing to hose up their machines for science would be welcome.

[robingravel]

Hi Nychold


Do you have a patch or a hint to prevent my computer to crash using sci studio?

Let me to know.


Robin Gravel

[Nychold]

No, I modified and recompiled the source code so as to keep GDI memory leaks to a minimum.  There shouldn't be any leaks any more, but like I said, I can't be certain.  Barring any serious problems and/or complaints from Brian, or the other moderators here, I'll post a link to the file.  It's significantly larger than the current scistudio.exe which I still haven't figured out...it's a around 2.5 MB.

BTW, Brian, if you have any problems at all with me doing this, by all means, remove the link from this post...I'll have no problems with it.

Window 9x compatible SCI Studio???

I really hope this works!

[Patrick]

Also keep in mind guys that just because you dont understand how to program in SCI, dosent mean that you cant do other things with SCI.  Take me for instance.  I dont know a lick about SCI, and I probabally never will...but, I still have an SCI0 (which I agree with Chris 100%, SQ3 is an awesome game and is in much greater in detail than AGI ) project under wraps. (GOASCI). This is all done in Javascript, which happens to be very easy to understand.

As for SCI Studio: If you are so axnious to use it, then why dont you build your own project .  Chris is not slamming anyone's request, he is fullfilling them to the greatest of his extent. His motives are clear to me FlyingDutchman, he is doing his job.  What more can you ask?

In addition, guys just keep an open mind.  People have lives as well as family.  Not everyone can stay online all day, every day working on things in a community.  The whole purpose of this community for everyone to pitch in and give their ideas/support.  Demands dont get very far, just as far as a loss of respect.  Dont forget that, because im sure some of you have

*Kicks the soapbox to the side*

Thats about it...
Patrick