Rare AGI Games on standard PC DOS

[lance.ewing]

BTW, the AGI Wiki is no longer being updated. You should be using the new Sierra Wiki, which combines the AGI and SCI Wikis and is in the process of replacing the main SierraHelp site. Registrations have been turned off because of spammers, but anyone that wants an account just has to request one and I'll add it.

Do I have a login for the new wiki yet? I still have a working one for the old, so I made some updates to the old page. Some of that info I would like to add to the new. If I don't have a login yet, can you set me up?

I put some details under the "About" section of the old KQ wiki page in relation to the events happening at the time of the KQ release.

[Threepwang]

Everything is clear to me; I'm glad that the light has been shed on these game versions. Thank you, Lance, I've learned a lot thanks to you.

You were also right about the KQ1 game by einstein95; it was a misunderstanding. Indeed, the detection table of ScummVM indicates that the version of his game dates back to 1986: https://i.ibb.co/8nsFC8ZR/KQ1.png You will tell me that it could not be otherwise, and that is the case.

Maybe it is also necessary to correct on Agi Wiki and Sierra Wiki that KQ2 1.0W and 1.1H are not PC DOS games, but only bootable versions. The same applies to versions 1.1J, 1.1K, and 1.1M of The Black Cauldron.

And a huge thank you to them

[Collector]

I need to find a way to set the old wikis as read only. Any changes made to them will be lost when I delete the old ones. I am keeping them until I am sure that everything has been transferred, which I think is nearly complete.

I'll add an account for the new wiki for you. Shall I use your Gmail account for your email?

[lance.ewing]

I'll add an account for the new wiki for you. Shall I use your Gmail account for your email?

Yes please, same as the old wiki. Thanks.

[Collector]

Your account has been created. You should get an email with your randomly generated password.

Initial release date had already been updated on the new Wiki, based on NRS's find of the release's copyright page.

[lance.ewing]

Your account has been created. You should get an email with your randomly generated password.

The email hasn't come through. I've PMed you. We can continue discussion offline on this.

[lskovlun]

Here is the total list of recognized versions of The Black Cauldron in ScummVM:

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        // Black Cauldron (PC 5.25" booter) 1.1J [AGI 1.12]
        BOOTER_UNSTABLE("bc", "1.1J 5.25\" Booter", "0f69951170868481acebf831dd743b21", 0x1120, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (PC 5.25" booter) 1.1K [AGI 1.12]
        // This also matches against Tandy version 01.00.00. The game resources are identical
        // except for the copyright/version text on the title screen and three pics.
        BOOTER_UNSTABLE("bc", "1.1K 3.5\" Booter", "297a586027a5eba60219b339ebe53443", 0x1120, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (PC 5.25" booter) 1.1M [AGI 1.12]
        BOOTER_UNSTABLE("bc", "1.1M 3.5\" Booter", "29bc82f2acfd0c7deeb7941cafd745d2", 0x1120, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (Amiga) 2.00 6/14/87
        GAME_PO("bc", "2.00 1987-06-14", "7b01694af21213b4727bb94476f64eb5", 0x2440, GID_BC, Common::kPlatformAmiga, GAMEOPTIONS_AMIGA),

        // Black Cauldron (Apple II) 1.1H [AGI 1.20]
        A2("bc", "1.1H", "80c7d0af6c89bf28ae44d2aa5ca83dc1", 0x1120, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (Apple IIgs) 1.0O 2/24/89 (CE)
        GAME3_PO("bc", "1.0O 1989-02-24 (CE)", "bcdir", "dc09d30b147242692f4f85b9811962db", 0x3149, 0, GID_BC, Common::kPlatformApple2GS, GAMEOPTIONS_APPLE2GS),

        // Black Cauldron (PC) 2.00 6/14/87 [AGI 2.439]
        GAME("bc", "2.00 1987-06-14", "7f598d4712319b09d7bd5b3be10a2e4a", 0x2440, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (Russian)
        GAME_LPS("bc", "",  "b7de782dfdf8ea7dde8064f09804bcf5", 357, Common::RU_RUS, 0x2440, GID_BC, Common::kPlatformDOS),

        // Black Cauldron (PC 5.25") 2.10 11/10/88 [AGI 3.002.098]
        GAME3("bc", "2.10 1988-11-10 5.25\"", "bcdir", "0c5a9acbcc7e51127c34818e75806df6", 0x3149, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (PC 3.5") 2.10 11/10/88 [AGI 3.002.098]
        // BC.QA says "Interpreter: 3.002.097", while AGIDATA.OVL is "3.002.098"
        GAME3("bc", "2.10 1988-11-10 3.5\"", "bcdir", "0de3953c9225009dc91e5b0d1692967b", 0x3149, GID_BC),

        // Black Cauldron (CoCo3 360k) [AGI 2.023]
        // Unofficial port by Guillaume Major
        GAME_PS("bc", "", "51212c54808ade96176f201ae0ac7a6f", 357, 0x2440, GID_BC, Common::kPlatformCoCo3),

        // Black Cauldron (CoCo3 360k) [AGI 2.072]
        // Unofficial port by Guillaume Major
        GAME_PS("bc", "updated", "c4e1937f74e8100cd0152b904434d8b4", 357, 0x2440, GID_BC, Common::kPlatformCoCo3),
There is both an AGI2 and an AGI3 version. So someone had to have these versions of the game.

[lance.ewing]

There is both an AGI2 and an AGI3 version. So someone had to have these versions of the game.

Black Cauldron has the distinction of having AGI1, AGI2 and AGI3 versions.

The versions of BC that where mentioned in the original post are the three AGI1 booter versions known to exist, but as 1.1J suggests earlier versions, my guess is that those earlier versions were internal versions and never actually released to the public. The fact that there exists the 1.1J version in the wild would suggest that that version was released to the public.